The Shipyard

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Re: The Shipyard

Postby R4V3-0N » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:48 am

You may consider flak as a primitive weapon... but wouldn't hurteling balls of plasma (aka burst lasers/ heavy lasers) at low velocities also be considered primitive?
Or using standard missiles that are practically unguided?

In a way, the flak is as low tech as the bombs in FTL.

I wouldn't say the Osprey would have fallen on a failed run.

The deserters seems a more likely story. Or after a quick defeat over a federation sector from the incoming rebels left it unmanned and not captured as possibly A) the rebels didn't notice it. B) rebels already had one and couldn't carry that much back, C) the rebels were short on time nad had to persue the remaining federation units in the area.

Which is not that unlikely of a story at all. the Panzerkampfwagen VII "Maus" is the largest tank in history. Using a sub- naval gun used on battleships as it's main gun on a turret. Using ANOTHER anti tank gun as a coaxial gun instead of a machine gun. and using Naval breaches and such to prevent shrapnel, fire,l or water going from 1 end of the tank to the other when it is under fire, on fire, or under water as this thing was so heavy normal bridges won't hold it up and it was designed to go underwater through the river instead. This tank was one of the oddest tanks in history that was actually built and was going to be used until it was captured with no crew inside. One was captured and investigated and researched by the western allies while the other one was somehow not deemed valuable and was used as TARGET PRACTICE.

Using this WWII story as it makes sense on how the rebels got the ship in 1 piece. how they got 1 of Fed Cruisers and possibly left the other one alone. Thus pirate looters after the raids came in and took it.

I would doubt the Flak cannons use on the Fed C is a downgrade or a last resort. if it was it would make more sense as a different beam weapon, or a missile. As mentioned earlier flak is rather held as a higher end weapon due to the main races that use them as well as other features such as it's rarity and it's price compared to other contemporary weapons. It also has a nice spread affect which would give it lots of merit and usability over say a laser and it is devastation to shields. It's one of the only weapons that can do this.

Either way it is no ordinary pirates that got this ship, they are quite wealthy. we can see this due to the quality of the paint- they painted the entire ship in black first and then with the unique red paint afterwards. Covering the ship 100% in the paint instead of the pirates regular 30 to 60%

We got a unique possibly high end weapon
We got a Federation prototype Cruiser
We got a unique pirate faction.

These 3 factors say something. Rather that be former federation crew deserters, successful pirates that is not named Tuco, or a random match of luck...

We also have to mention that this ship also carry zoltan, mantis, and a human on it at the start and it comes with a clone bay... It also lacks any normal weapons which is odd for any pirate ship in FTL. Regardless of na artillery system or not.




Also it's not exactly civilians that are associated with Green with Yellow stripes. it all started with FTL: Captains Edition which used it as the Militias paint scheme which used former federation ships for there forces (which makes sense slightly on how they got the fed cruiser). The militia in another view is the 'peoples army'. so civilians would heavily use this as well.

Due to the fact that people want to perceive Captains Edition as a fannon they want to stick to it strictly to create an expanded universe of lore in the FTL community so things click in nicely.

This is also the only human skin we know that is neither federation or rebel that isn't a pirate. So the only skin that isn't a friend or foe is considered neutral.


To be honest we do not have any lore that is cannon what so ever on the....

Engi B "Red" / "Rust" skin.
Engi C "Chrome" Science skin
Rock B "Black" skin
Mantis B "Blue" skin
Mantis C skin
Slug B "Bicolour" skin
Slug C "Yellow" skin
Fed Cruiser B "Green" skin
Fed Cruiser C "black" skin
Stealth A, B, and C skin
crystal B "Crimson" skin
Lanius B "red" skin

etc... so there is lots of area to work up on lore in fannon. not to mention that there is also the civilian/ outer nebula Slug "Blue" skin from alpha/ beta, the rebels "white and orange" skin from alpha and beta, etc also thrown into the mix.
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Re: The Shipyard

Postby Chrono Vortex » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:40 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the shipyard!

X The home of abandoned wrecks.
X Cutting floor of unused cruisers.
X Playground of broken weapons.
X Junkyard of discarded drones.
✓ Capital of fan fiction.
✓ Think-tank of speculation.

No offense intended of course, I can't be expected to let a comedic opportunity like this go unused.
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Re: The Shipyard

Postby steamtex » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:55 pm

Chrono Vortex wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the shipyard!

X The home of abandoned wrecks.
X Cutting floor of unused cruisers.


WELL, NOW I HAVE A JOB TO DO. THIS SHALL BE REVERSED.
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Re: The Shipyard

Postby R4V3-0N » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:09 pm

steamtex wrote:
Chrono Vortex wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the shipyard!

X The home of abandoned wrecks.
X Cutting floor of unused cruisers.


WELL, NOW I HAVE A JOB TO DO. THIS SHALL BE REVERSED.
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Re: The Shipyard

Postby stylesrj » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:12 pm

Well I have made a thread where ship theories could be discussed further:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=27638

It's probably buried in-between the ads for coins and shoes. :lol:

steamtex wrote:Just remember, you did say "Cruisers".


Holy crap! There needs to be more seaborne vessels converted for FTL now (or FTL converted into a sea game)
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Re: The Shipyard

Postby steamtex » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:18 pm

Small (Read: I lie constantly) request: Can I get a Federation repaint of this hackjob of the Rebel Cruiser from CE?

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Re: The Shipyard

Postby R4V3-0N » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:16 am

Chrono Vortex wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the shipyard!

X The home of abandoned wrecks.
X Cutting floor of unused cruisers.
X Playground of broken weapons.
X Junkyard of discarded drones.
✓ Capital of fan fiction.
✓ Think-tank of speculation.

No offense intended of course, I can't be expected to let a comedic opportunity like this go unused.

Shall I go make a thread based on speculation of FTL lore and filtering of the fannon / apocryphal / cannon?
Also it technically isn't fan fiction- it's a fan theory and speculation, which could be as much cannon as it is apocyphal or fannon but the thing with putting together lore and cannon in FTL is the fact it is like doing connect the dots without any numbers. You have to wing it and not everyone agrees on the end resault as it may sway a bit being more heavily relied on some sources then others...

For eg 1 theory:

We know engi are in a way are biological beings... if you think it still counts by having every cell replaces by an intelligent nanite/ nano bot (what ever your terms are for it) and also the brain in the way is like the capital building of the being where decisions are made based on past experience and morals as well as putting there safety first. Also the fact they still burn O2 for oxygen.

We also know Engi can change forms as they are not forced to be a humanoid being. We have seen some merge together and pull apart in some fluff text on empty beacons where in a way they made huge arms/ hands or cranes to operate on a station or ship if I remember correctly.

We also know that the engi got a med bay nano bot swarm... which if you put 2 and 2 together. it kinda says that those nano bots are actually engi that are fully separated - in a way, those medbay nano bot swarm is a Engi... it is also a theory that the rebel Ai's are also engi and there is a possibility that engi ships are in fact alive. But that is straying more and more away using "connect the dots" using the lines we just made.

Another few theories out there is the fact that the Rebels are the good guys and the Federation is the bad guys. another being that Rebels are racist xenophobes, etc.

And when you got these FTL lore dit-bits formed, some people will disagree a bit. As with CE. Based on 1 universe with no vague terms anywhere, people slightly do not feel like it is cannon as it isn't there ideas of what is cannon.



But hey, that is just a Game theory... and thanks for reading!


So... you want to buy nuts that is thrown at your door?



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... shall I go make the think-tank thread now or later? (also where?)
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Re: The Shipyard

Postby R4V3-0N » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:18 am

stylesrj wrote:Well I have made a thread where ship theories could be discussed further:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=27638

It's probably buried in-between the ads for coins and shoes. :lol:

steamtex wrote:Just remember, you did say "Cruisers".


Holy crap! There needs to be more seaborne vessels converted for FTL now (or FTL converted into a sea game)


Ninja'd... damn it

steamtex wrote:Small (Read: I lie constantly) request: Can I get a Federation repaint of this hackjob of the Rebel Cruiser from CE?

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On it! (you have to make the gibs though...)
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Re: The Shipyard

Postby steamtex » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:20 am

I have some interesting plans for this ship...

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Re: The Shipyard

Postby Chrono Vortex » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:27 am

When you do get the recolor, might I suggest you change the Rebel nacelle things into something that looks a little more like it came from the Federation? It's always kind of disappointing to me to see a neat ship that's a weird Federation-Rebel hybrid. If you don't feel like it I could do it.

Are you gonna want to use a rail gun sound for that thing?
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