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My preferred loadout is lasers, lasers, and more lasers. I'd be happy fighting pretty much anything with two Burst Laser IIs and a Glaive Beam. My most successful run so far was with one Burst Laser II, one Glaive Beam, and a second Burst Laser II which couldn't be fired because I was unable to get the power upgrades in time for the boss.

My ideal loadout is 4 Burst Laser 2's, but I've never gotten it. The best I've ever had is 3 BL2s and a BL1, which was essentially as good. I also had a Weapon Preigniter and every battle went the same. Take down the weapons before they can do anything. Take down the shields before they can fix the weapons, and take down the ship (assuming they weren't dead in the second volley) before 30 seconds has gone by.

Bonus: The same thing works for the Flagship. If you have a cloak you can defeat all 3 phases without taking any damage (though the third phase you can get hit with the second missile volley).

5thHorseman wrote:My ideal loadout is 4 Burst Laser 2's, but I've never gotten it.

That would pretty much just be the best loadout ever.

Burst lazor 2s are obviously an amazing weapon for obvious reasons. But i think once you have enough pewpew to disable shields, a glaive beam is even more deadly... That said, i think 2 burst2s and a glaive is better than straight up 4 burst 2s. Glaive beams do as much as 2 burst 2s if it just hits 2 rooms, and its quite easy to often hit 4 or maybe even more. Combine that with that it will not miss ever.

One time i had a burst 2, a dual lazor, and a glaive though... It was glorious.

Ion Blast
Ion Blast II
Burst Laser II
Glaive Beam

Ghaleon wrote:Burst lazor 2s are obviously an amazing weapon for obvious reasons. But i think once you have enough pewpew to disable shields, a glaive beam is even more deadly... That said, i think 2 burst2s and a glaive is better than straight up 4 burst 2s. Glaive beams do as much as 2 burst 2s if it just hits 2 rooms, and its quite easy to often hit 4 or maybe even more. Combine that with that it will not miss ever.

Glaives take 2x as long to charge as BL2s. You You can fire 24 shots of 4 BL2s in the time you can fire 12 shots and do a beam of BL2s and Glaive.

By the time you're firing. I've taken down their weapons and am firing at their shields. Also, I can specifically target 4 room with 4 BLs (even if a couple of them are BL1s) while the Glaive can only hit a few connected rooms.

Now if you have a preigniter then yeah, Glaive is pretty good. And another (non-preigniter) awesome loadout is Glaive, Ion2, ion. By the time your Glaive is ready to go their shields are down, even if they're Zoltans.

4 x Burst Laser II with Weapon Pre-igniter would be hilarious (that has never occured to me though)
I have a few favorite layouts, including:

2 x Anti-Ship Drone II (they can even slowly manage through any shield, as long as they don't miss too much)
+ some random weapons

Ion Blast I + Ion Blast II + some beams/beam drones

Rockmen + fire (actually, haven't played with rockmen for a while now )

I personally don't like going for anything that uses missiles, unless I have no other way around.

ion bomb
ion blast II
fire beam
anti-biobeam
+
teleporter

and then attack drones for AI ships

theoryofkrin wrote:ion bomb
ion blast II
fire beam
anti-biobeam
+
teleporter

and then attack drones for AI ships

Actually, swap the Anti-Bio Beam for something that damages, and make sure that teleporter comes with 4 rockmen, and you've got my favorite loadout when you count the other parts of the ship other than just the weapons. I'll even take 2 rock men and 2 mantises. The mantises can go to the non-aflame side of the ship

yes switch the biobeam with heavy pierce

ship: Carnelian

weapon:
heavy pierce
ion bomb
ion blast II
fire beam

Drone:
antiship drone II
antiship drone II


teleporter team: rockman,rockman,mantis,crystal
pilot: engi
engines: engi
weapons: rockman
shields: rockman

augments are:
medbaybots
pre-igniter
FTL jammer