Advanced Edition: First impressions thread

[The Captain]

So it's possible to win the game on hard and still not have a clue. Impressive.

[5thHorseman]

so there you have it, not only i beat this silly game on hard +advanced but i did so with full hp ... well one is missing but i have thrity seven drone parts and hull repair so thats um 111-185 ? more hp on my ship

Yet you hoard 200 scrap without buying a 2nd level of shields.

Of COURSE the RNG is going to punish you when you don't do the simple, obviously correct things.

I am impressed that you beat the game on Hard. It is no small feat. I will be even more impressed if you tell me you did so after making it to sector 4 or 5 before bothering to spend any scrap, which goes against all strategies that have been formulated for this game over the past year plus.

[Mendel]

I beat the game on hard on something like my third attempt. Then again a couple attempts later.

Since then, I have played something like close to 50 games without beating it. I have opened all the c layouts but lost to the flagship on all of those games. On my most recent game it was very close but I had no hull repair drone and started the last phase on red hull so I just very barely died.

Overall, I have now close to 400 games played and won a total of 15 times, most of them on normal. I´d say a hundred of them is restarts after one or two jumps... and I think I´ve gotten to the flagship something like 50 times.

That seems like it makes my win % very low... if some people can win 99% of their games, I must be doing something very wrong.

edit: I´ll make a post your stats thread

[tututu]

I hoarded on 200 scrap for one reason or another i don't really remember what but considering i do know how to play this game (probably even better than you by now since all you do seems to be diss others on forums)

Shield rarely ever saves you in this game and if you think otherwise then we're playing different games, the biggest problems are always missiles or ships with combat drone 2 and something else which will cut through your shield even a level 3 one so whatever with that. On 1 of my faceroll playthroughs i reached 400 scrap not once or twice but even 3 times before spending it because my ship was so ridiculously strong i didn't need to upgrade it to beat anything or anyone and i just waited for a better shop to come before i decide what to do with it

so protip to anyone thinking hes doing something wrong (even mendel over there confirms it) just keep clicking the restart button every time u get a bad start because this is a snowball-y game and if youre going bad it'll get even worse and you will almost certainly not recover (depending on rng as usual) and if its gooing good then it can keep going good or it can get bad

I just restarted a game after getting a bad start and guess what? i get a free glaive beam in sector 1 after beating a random ship + a crewmember random encounter and you wanna tell me this isnt about luck? please

@Twinge i know my mistakes and thats the reason why i came here to complain on this forum? Because my mistakes i can correct but silly chance and bad encounters i can't correct.
Lets assume this, you get long ranged scanners and you can even see whats on the next beacon .. i usually hunt ships depending on how strong i am for the scrap but there have been multiple cases where i enter a new sector (like sector 3 or 4) and i meet enemies with 3/4 shield (from 1 shield on the previous sector) without absolutely no warning when my ship is a poor newbie ship with less than 300 acquired/spent scrap, you wanna tell me how to beat that? Or just wait till your engines are full and then run away? But then what? The entire sector is filled with 4shield ships out of nowhere that gives you no warning. Theres no tactic in this, theres no way to win in such encounter and you can tell "you bit more than you can chew" but in this game do you really have a choice? And you don't even know what encounter you'll get by the time you get it so thats that..


so how about some of you progamers here (sarcasticly, obviously) stream FTL and do like bunch of games without restarting and i'll watch and we'll see how you deal with bad encounters? If you get too lucky at the start etc something obviously easy then you'll just restart until you dont get too lucky so you can show me and everybody else how "there is a way to beat the game" in every situation
because like i said there isnt, most of the playthroughs you start are doomed to fail due to poor game design and testing and im not even gonna start on how imbalanced ships are between each other

[Boo]

I think Twinge already did that? I think he beat the game 18 times consecutively on normal pre-AE on stream. Of course, normal pre-AE is completely different from hard AE but I assumed your complaints were about the game as a whole. If not, then you have the options to turn off AE and to play on normal.

[5thHorseman]

so how about some of you progamers here (sarcasticly, obviously) stream FTL and do like bunch of games without restarting and i'll watch and we'll see how you deal with bad encounters? If you get too lucky at the start etc something obviously easy then you'll just restart until you dont get too lucky so you can show me and everybody else how "there is a way to beat the game" in every situation
because like i said there isnt, most of the playthroughs you start are doomed to fail due to poor game design and testing and im not even gonna start on how imbalanced ships are between each other

I don't propose to be a "progamer" nor do I stream, but every single game of FTL I sat down to play for YouTube I've posted to YouTube, with one exception - a Rock B run in normal mode that I accidentally deleted the video for. It was a win, though, so my record on YouTube is a little worse for it.

You have no "proof" that this is the case other than my word and the fact that I get into a lot of bad situations against a lot of ships that would kick a lot of peoples' asses. Sometimes they kick my ass. Sometimes I kick theirs.

As further "proof" that I'm not lying about my record, I'm also posting hard runs in AE, and so far my record's been abysmal. Feel free to check them out.

Don't bother calling me a liar because I won't stream. I'll ignore you.

[cretin]

anyone questioning there is a heavy RNG in this game is just lying. its the nature of a roguelike - try to see it as a positive feature, it leads to those WTF moments where u still get surprised after knowing the game well.

18 wins on stream consecutively, sounds like heavy luck or just cheating. i think a winrate of close to 50% was possible on normal on big samplesize and if u cut out ur results when u learned the game. but 99% over a sample of 50+ games.. i dont think thatll happen.

and @ horseman i didnt watch your videos, but i dont think u claim u have a winrate >90%, so there is just a difference. the 18 wins could be easily manipulated

[5thHorseman]

and @ horseman i didnt watch your videos, but i dont think u claim u have a winrate >90%, so there is just a difference. the 18 wins could be easily manipulated

I don't claim over 90% but I'm close. Out of 18 games I think won 16, and then 18 more I won something like 14 (and one of those was a BS loss where the game decided I couldn't catch the flagship but I could. I'm so glad that's not a possibility any more )

Of course, that was on Normal Mode in the old verison. I'm no where near that in Hard Mode in AE, and I'm still waiting for the 90%ers to post their videos of how easy Hard Mode is.

And Twinge's 18 wins could not have been manipulated without a Nixonesque level of deceit. He'd have had to record the wins, and then run the video on Twitch while commenting it as if he was playing live, interacting with people in real time while also pretending to stream hours of gameplay that it'd be impossible to remember well enough to reliably post comment on. Frankly, even if I thought he was the biggest liar on Earth I'd believe this was legit simply because it'd be EASIER to win 18 in a row than fabricate that sort of illusion.

There is no doubt that Twinge won 18 games in a row, and there is no doubt that he did so after he said he could. Maybe he got lucky, but there's a lot of weight in saying you can do something and then doing it. Period.

[cretin]

i dont know anyone of you, but i know streamers do manipulate content in other games. i dont think he played 2 weeks non stop with the stream anytime up and someone controlled him all that time. i wont go into details how we could get fooled, but i dont know enough about streaming and the steam version in this game(how it keeps track). still people cheat in much more advanced gaming environments, just keep that in mind.

all i was saying is that there is BOTH skill and luck involved in the game. thats why i also mentioned sample.. 90 % winrate overall is impossible over a decent sample. 20 games can be easily luck i had longer consecutive runs also, but my overall winrate on normal is only a little more than 30% with all my games involved.
main point is the game would be boring without the RNG part, thats what tututu should think about to get less frustrated.

anyway, trying to rerail the thread:

im playing mantis b atm hard/ae and bought the mind control to assist boarding. now i notice i cannot turn it off and i have to teleport the converted crew over to my ship to kill it in a lengthy process. im a noob to advanced edition - how could i handle this better? seems like it was the worst decision to buy it for mantis b..

lost another shivan b run yesterday so im at 2/8 hard AE. lost it in the midgame(S6) which was pretty uncommon for me on normal. so definitely better midgame with the update

[obliviondoll]

im playing mantis b atm hard/ae and bought the mind control to assist boarding. now i notice i cannot turn it off and i have to teleport the converted crew over to my ship to kill it in a lengthy process. im a noob to advanced edition - how could i handle this better? seems like it was the worst decision to buy it for mantis b..

I can see a few options here.

1. Use mind Control in situations where the enemy crew member WILL be getting killed off while separated from your main boarding party.

2. Power the system down and only use it as a counter to enemy MC to revert control of your own MCed crew.

3. Get Bombs, Anti-Bio Beam or Fire Beam and use those to finish off a wounded MCed enemy crew member.