Subset Games Forum

Is it possible to get cloak on the Federation Cruiser? After several plays I havent found it a single time.

I don't think so. I've tried many times but I think with the artillery beam you sacrifice the cloak.

Notice the amount of rooms which has "four spaces" in them. Teleporter takes two, Shields takes four, Cloak takes four, Drones take four. if you run out of rooms with four spaces, you can't have more advanced systems.

Systems can be in 2 spaced rooms too. Cloak on adjudicator have 2 spaces.

Problem is that the upgrade screen when you press "Ship" isn't big enough due to the added artillery beam.

I have confirmed in the ship's layout definition in data.dat that the Fed cruiser is not capable of cloaking. In fact, from the way it's commented out, it looks like the "feature" of the Fed cruiser used to be that it included cloaking.

I have successfully modded data.dat to re-enable the cloak, but hborrg is right, because the upgrade screen isn't quite wide enough, with both artillery and the cloak, the upgrade items go over the right border a little. But it works just fine.

The federation cruiser used to be able to use cloak in the beta. (it had the kestrel type Bs weapon loadout then I believe)

At some point the artillery beam got added to the federation cruiser and then the ship lost the cloak system. The artillery beam essentially replaces the cloak.

Vintagecake: what are you on about? That's not right at all. The reason the federation cruiser doesn't have cloak is for balancing issues. Not because of room sizes. thre are examples of both teleport and medbay having both 2 and 4 square rooms.
Reversely any ship that can get cloak can't get the artillery beam (and that is pretty much every other ship)

Aw man! I thought I was just having terrible luck finding it in stores. It makes sense. The cruiser would be insanely powerful with cloak.

You can't get cloak on federation cruiser, because of Treaty of Algeron (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Algeron). That's another reason to believe the game is based on the Star Trek universe and not on some inferior one like Star Wars or BG.